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Allison Gallacher's avatar

The problem with having left once, is that everyone will be watching for signs that he will go again as soon as the going gets rough. Rupert Lowe was badly treated and Zia was at the core of it. The public is aware of this. This is the problem that Nigel has to work around.

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Eleanor's avatar
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He and Nigel have so much in common - both tend to leave when the going gets tough and both are clearly brittle narcissists - according to a tweet from Yusuf he himself started the party "from scratch" despite the fact he wasn't even around when the party actually started!

I am beginning to think they are secretly related - a one night stand by our Nige perhaps??! After all Nigel has never put himself out so much for any of the long line of other people who have left any of his other parties over the years.

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Alan's avatar

Lowe bad mouthed Farage and deserved what he got. Look up at how divisive and troublemaking he was at his footfall club. If you really want to know Yusuf and who is really driving Reform, spend two hours watching a decent impartial journalist interviewing him. This should be compulsory viewing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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Bettina's avatar

An organisation that is known more for its personalities than for its philosophy will not succeed in the public arena. People want thoughtful policy, debate and democracy not egos fighting for power. They are risible and symptomatic of this country's descent into amateurism. I voted Reform but I do wish Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe (and Robert Jenrick) would set up a new party soon!

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Kat Harvey's avatar

They would get my support and vote immediately. I have held my nose and voted Reform because there’s no option but I hope for better than Reform since it took the money from a Muslim and finds itself compromised.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Have just watched a YouTube of Habib interviewed. Answering a question on the Reform company and who started it, which led to where said company is now in Company House documentation. Complicated! There now 2 levels of company, and no members as there not a political Party, ! Suggest listen for selves but we need to know these facts on an entity that growing but over which ‘subscribers’ have no say.

If want to hear only about Company records start loosely around 10 mins.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgJcC7SKSw

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Roy Gardiner's avatar

Yes, I had watched it yesterday. The description of the convoluted company structure made my head spin. As many have said before, "Reform is Farage and Farage is Reform'. In which case it does not get my vote.

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Bettina's avatar

Exactly! It's not even democratic in and of itself, so how do people expect it to govern democratically?

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Kat Harvey's avatar

I have just watched it again. Ben Habib is so very well-informed and explanatory - and has a nice sense of humour. Frankly, he’s too good for Reform!

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Christine Gray's avatar

Reform was restructured this year and is a company limited by guarantee. This type of company is commonly used by charities and not-for-profit organizations.

According to Companies house has 'no persons with significant control'

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Yes, know what Limited means. What explained in video that there 2 parts to company ie 2 different but very similar names of. Also that donors think they members of Reform when in fact they not such within the company format, …. They subscribers that donate but have no say in ‘Party’ policies or ‘board’ to give the admin a name. Farage told public last year there had been a rearrangement of the rules and he could be voted out if public wanted to do but would need a large majority he added! When in fact he can’t be voted out because he owns it and now with Charlton somebody as Zia not named on the top tier of the 2 tiers of the company as registered in Company House. Reform2025. If watch video as I suggest it’ll be clearer by a better explanation :)

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David Allen's avatar

There's limited by guarantee and limited by equity, The former is a favourite for political parties the latter for businesses. The other legally recognised structure is an unincorporated association, usually football, cricket clubs, golf clubs etc, though as golf clubs have a lot of assets many have changed to companies limited by guarantee.

In a company limited by equity, the shareholders own the company and it's assets. In an unincorporated association (members clubs), the members own the assets. In a company limited by guarantee, nobody owns the assets. On closure, all assets must be transferred to a like minded organisation. If a golf club shuts down and is a company limited by guarantee then all it's remaining assets would go to another golf club.

I've set up and registered political parties of limited by guarantee and members clubs.

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Christine Gray's avatar

Seems Reform have everything in order.

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Christine Gray's avatar

Farage does NOT own Reform. There are no persons with significant control. It is set up like other political parties. Ben Habib has sour grapes.

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David Allen's avatar

And you said that in the face of their huge electoral success? You should realise by now that thoughtful policy and debate is the last thing electors are interested in.

A Rupert Lowe new party would just sink below the waves.

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Bettina's avatar

That is actually very patronising to people stuck within our electoral system. They are presented with non-choices.

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Richard M's avatar

Exactly

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Richard M's avatar

But it is. Look at the polls

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Bettina's avatar

It's not a vote for Reform per se, but a vote AGAINST the Uniparty.

Their philosophical incoherence, internal totalitarianism and backstabbing (worthy of the Politburo) and lack of a serious 'shadow cabinet' plus their very low calibre candidates (and I'm talking cannot spell or write grammatically) will not stand the test of time and exposure to the public at large.

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Richard M's avatar

I totally disagree... In such a short space of time they have professionalized the party with over 400 new branches... Many of their candidates come from a business background. With only 5 MPs they are setting the agenda and both the conservatives and labour party are trying to catch up. It is an incredible acievement. Leading in the Polls, did amazingly well in the local elections. Won Runcorn.. did very well in Scotland which puts them on calls to win 30 plus MSPs next year and polling very well in Wales. Is there more to do? Yes... But do not think for a minute that the internal melodrama created on X has anything to do with real life.

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David Allen's avatar

There are millions of people, voters in the UK, who are politically disengaged and it takes a great deal of time for them to be aware of anything. They are the 6-8 million votes a party needs to form a government. Even those in the political arena, often protected by party allegiance, can fall foul of the messaging reverberating off the surface of their particular bubble. Andrew Bridgen, an honourable and sound MP was intoxicated by his own sense of his popularity only to crash and burn in the election. I did tell him, but he wasn't in listening mode. Reform's rise was entirely due to Nigel's magnetism. The mood changed dramatically and the subsequent electoral successes have built upon that to the extent that people really believe they will win the next GE. Once that belief has been achieved it will stick like glue. It's taken Farage 30 years of toil and setbacks and we're all the better for it.

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Bettina's avatar

It's one thing winning an election and quite another to win the 'peace'.

There are fundamental, structural problems with our system of governance. I think we could scale up the Swiss system (federal, direct democracy); overhaul our franchise (limit it to taxpayers otherwise it becomes people voting for handouts); overhaul the entire tax structure to connect spending with revenue with democratic accountability; prohibit public borrowing and money printing etc etc

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David Allen's avatar

Bettina, you are spot on regarding the structural problems in our electoral and governance system. However, you don't need to look too far for a solution that addresses all the main fault lines. I've written a book on just this subject called 'The Living Vote'. I asked Grok to review it and here's what it came up with.

https://open.substack.com/pub/thelivingvote/p/groks-review-of-the-living-vote?r=1yz37c&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Bettina's avatar

You are being incredibly shortsighted thinking that media drama plus protest vote has longevity.

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Christine Gray's avatar

Every party has people with egos, but I think people do not understand how difficult it is to set up a political party. Most don't get anywhere. Reform have done a tremendous job and before anyone criticises them further, their meteoric rise is due to the dissatisfaction of the British public with Labour and Tory and the fact that people now realise the state of the UK and where it is heading. Nigel is a great salesman, but it takes someone like him, with policies and business expertise to back this up to create a party to challenge the Uniparties. People look to Reform with hope as both Labour and Tory parties are compromised and full of people that are either career politicians or have little business experience. Reform do need to democratise, but Rome wasn't built in a day and I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Bettina's avatar

I understand, but I stood for Reform in the last council elections four years ago and in four years they have made zero progress in democratising the party. It is the Nigel show. They do not have the expertise to form a government and given that they haven't professionalised over the past 4 years, I doubt they are going to now. In fact, if you ever got involved with Reform you would see that it is a corralling of the discontented, being led up a blind alley by Pied Piper Farage. Loads of fantastic foot soldiers in Reform being used and abused. No serious thinking going on.

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Lorna Locke's avatar

You’re trying to make Reform sound like the LieBour party, which they are not. People have had enough and Reform really is the only way forward now and the only chance to save our once great country. Whatever you think of Reform, we can all rest assured that they will never be as corrupt, destructive or divisive as that bunch of useless amateurs as the current LieBour party.

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Bettina's avatar

I think that's wishful thinking. The membership is sound, but the leadership and organisation is weird. There is something off about the whole thing. If a genuine and democratic party emerged on the right, I think Reform's support and activist base would jump ship.

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Christine Gray's avatar

Reform was restructured this year and is a company limited by guarantee. This type of company is commonly used by charities and not-for-profit organizations.

According to Companies house has 'no persons with significant control'. Nigel stepped down as leader in 2021 and was going to retire. He has only been leader since 2024. I disagree with your negative views of Reform. They are serious and have certainly got Labour and Tories rattled!! They have published policies and are working on Constitutional matters. They have had a fantastic result in the Council elections. They have DOGE Department now headed by brilliant businessman Zia, to hold Councils to account. They are gradually doing everything right with a purpose and with a commonsense approach! This Country desperately needs this and I hope other people give Reform the opportunity to sort this country out.

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Bettina's avatar

The country desperately needs a lot of things but I do not believe Farage will deliver. He is Establishment through and through and will disappoint.

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Martin T's avatar

Just take over the Conservative Party - simple.

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Philip Ranby's avatar

hear, hear

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Poppy’s mum's avatar

It will succeed. You lefty’s are so pathetic

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Bettina's avatar

Lefty?????

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Gina Sainty's avatar

I was hugely disappointed to see Yusef return - I had thought his resignation could help turn Reform back towards its core base rather than continue its current trend towards being just another wing of the uni party.

Having seen clips of Farage also lying about why Ben Habib left I’m afraid he’s looking just as dishonest and slippery as Starmer 😡

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Janice mcfadzean's avatar

This debacle serves to illustrate how the Reform party can’t be trusted to keep its promises to the public.I only hope that Rupert Lowe can in the future offer an alternative that will stick to its word.

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Jane Noble Knight's avatar

And I will join on day 1 and leave Reform. My subscription ends on 6 November so no need to resign yet.

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Jacqui Lawrance's avatar

Such a shame. I’m a Reform member and was pleased he left as I felt he acted disgracefully over Rupert Lowe. His return has left me cold.

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Jane Noble Knight's avatar

Me too. I’ll be joining Rupert as soon as he announces his new party or organisation.

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Victoria Thomas's avatar

So will I. I've lost faith in Nigel now.

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Alan's avatar

How about backing the man thaty really has put Reform where it is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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Alan's avatar

Lowe bad mouthed Farage and deserved what he got. He was the same troublemaker trying to snatch power ai his football club, look it up. As for Yusuf, the man really driving Reform, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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Alison Robertson's avatar

Ooooooh obvious there are huge problems on the horizon, they’re utterly crap at trying to convince anyone with a brain cell otherwise.

Huge egos aplenty 🤷🏼‍♀️ one wonders what many enter politics for these days. The idea of being a public servant and putting the needs of others way above your own seems an alien concept to many of today’s MP’s, Councillors et al. They don’t make em like they used to that’s for sure 🙄

That’s where Rupert Lowe is different, a blast from the past kind of MP and it’s incredibly refreshing.

If I were Nigel and Zia would be a little concerned about Rupert which they obviously are, Ben Habib and Robert Jenrick also and if Kemi keeps putting in performances like last Wednesday in PMQ’s then I’d have my beadies 👀 fixed on her too.

Don’t take us for fools, we’re sick of it, listen to us and be truthful otherwise our support will shift when a more genuine alternative shows up 🙏🏻 am troubled by the last few months with Reform. Had my doubts way before that but now those doubts are screaming at me.

I voted Reform in the last election but as to whether I can vote for them again…ball’s in their court to convince me I can 🤷🏼‍♀️ they’ve some serious convincing to do.

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Victoria Thomas's avatar

Me too.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Have just watched a YouTube of Habib interviewed. Answering a question on the Reform company and who started it, which led to where said company is now in Company House documentation. Complicated! There now 2 levels of company, and no members as there not a political Party, ! Suggest listen for selves but we need to know these facts on an entity that growing but over which ‘subscribers’ have no say.

If want to hear only about Company records start loosely around 10 mins.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgJcC7SKSw

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Alan's avatar

Lowe is a troublemaker that tries to snatch power, check out how he behaved at his football club, and before bad bouthing Yusuf, watch this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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Tara's avatar

It's time to clean up the party. Zia reporting (innocent) Lowe to the police should have had Zia kicked out of the party, not Lowe. A party that does U turns on policies and behaves like squabbling schoolchildren behind the scenes (secure that mainstream media won't write about it) is not the right party to bring the UK out of the mess it currently finds itself in. I voted for Reform at the last election, but I have no party to vote for at the next....except maybe The Heritage Party, but we never hear about this....

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David Allen's avatar

We still await the outcome of the party investigation into Lowe's behaviour, about which the KC has already said there is credible evidence.

A published article about Lowe, when he was chairman of Southampton Football Club would suggest that such behaviour is not out of character. We'll see.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Is that the KC who’s been discredited about her report, and over which the employees who, when Farage publicised report, said publicly Lowe not involved atall. The employees she’s mentioned have now complained about her to the Parliamentary Committee ….. The KC herself said her report to Farage was not for publication but an initial scan of things, …. So the whole thing has been quietly dropped. So am glad to update you on this. ….. And the Police stated, not of interest on Zia’s complaint.

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David Allen's avatar

Not quite Sarah. I've not seen anything reliable to discredit the KC's actions. In fact I would doubt she would act in that way at all. My understanding was that there was a police investigation where the police quickly lobbed the hot potato over to the CPS who decided that they didn't feel they could obtain a conviction so declined to pursue a prosecution. That's not a declaration of innocence because by referring it, the police clearly thought where was something there, otherwise why not just drop it? Almost certainly a political dimension to this. The Police never stated 'not of interest' in fact quite the opposite.

I thought that then there would be a parliamentary investigation and only after that would the findings of the party one be released.

You may be right in that it stalled somewhere along the way, but there are so many agenda's being played out that unless you've seen official chapter and verse it's hard to be conclusive at this stage. I would be interested to know upon what source you believe the whole thing to have been dropped.

Whist I see Lowe's objectives, declaring a proclaimed innocence based on a CPS decision, which most certainly does not do that, is deliberately misleading and quite unsavoury.

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Lorna Locke's avatar

Rupert Lowe has been cleared of all charges against him - or did I dream that? 🤔

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David Allen's avatar

I think you dreampt something and if you had read my post you would know why.

As understand it there were three distinct elements to these complaints. A criminal investigation, a parliamentary investigation and a party investigation. The latter two, would not be concluded until the criminal one had been dealt with. The Police felt there was enough evidence to prosecute and therefore passed the case to the CPS. The CPS declined to take it further as they felt the evidence provided by the police may not be enough to secure a conviction. This is quite normal and the CPS often drop pefectly good cases to the disgust of the police. Starmer and rape gangs come to mind. In effect it means just that. Lowe, dishonestly presented this to the hard of thinking as an exoneration, which it is not.

As for the parliamentary investigation amd the party one, I don't know where they are with either of them. If anyone has reliable information it might shed some clarity.

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Alan's avatar

Exactly, Lowe has a record of making trouble and trying to snatch power, but how many that criticise Yusuf have actually watched this for two hours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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Maggie's avatar

Innocent ? no the police found issues took it further, but not enough for the CPS, that’s not innocent

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Ken Dickenson's avatar

If the police found issues, there were probably a couple of hurty words, so a jailing offence for a white Christian.

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Eleanor's avatar

The "issues" were a couple of hurty words that brittle egotist Mohammad couldn't cope with - his flouncing off and return after 48 hours shows what a childish narcissist he is.

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Lorna Locke's avatar

No case to answer then

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Eileen Thompson's avatar

Keep doing what you are doing Dan , we are in desperate need of people like yourself with integrity and not misplaced loyalty that turns a blind eye to wrong-doing .

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Silvie's avatar

Andrew Pierce should be nowhere near a tv channel. Hes like Nigel Nelson with his campaign to get rid if Boris and Liz. If the plan is to give Yousaf a safe seat then the voters will not vote for him, they wont have it. GBNEWS is the place where second rate mps like Miriam cates go as no one else will employ them. What a shit show its become.

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Robert Phillips's avatar

How true Jacob Rees Mogg was my MP ,an excellent one at that ,but what a bore his show is.Reduced to plugging John Redwood's book ,someone no one has listened to since the time of Methuselah.I wonder if it's reached the top ten thousand yet ?

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

Oh your lucky I wish that was me massive fan of Jacob Rees Mogg good person you are lucky

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

Thank you 🙏

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Michael Phillips's avatar

It’s all very well and good to do a 180 but this is more like a double 360 spinning around without logic. I am concerned that the influence of Islam is pervasive and unpleasant in the way that it is taking over so much of The British way of life. So what is this man’s agenda? As far as I can understand the readings in the tea leaves, this man will prevent any kind of resolution which prevents the conversion of a Christian Country into an Islamic fortress off the west coast of Europe. We are doomed and with many Muslim men having three wives and three children per wife the UK will be more than 35% Islamic by 2035. Just look at the demographics. Reform should be free of this man’s philosophy

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Yvette Henson's avatar

You speak for me Dan. I agree with everything you said there.

I must say, Nigel has charisma and drive. Gravitas. Having met him many times (and my late husband worked with him) I can say that the last person I met with such drive was Margaret Thatcher.

However, the treatment of Rupert Lowe has been atrocious and unforgivable. I admire him greatly. Yusuf is now in a new role - a troubleshooter. I have not seen him shoot any trouble yet. Time will tell. I have a ReformUK led County Council now and I will be interested to see how the new troubleshooter fares.

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Alan's avatar

You have no idea of the man who is actually the one that put Reform where it is now, take a look if you have a couple of hours! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LHSAoxZEiw&ab_channel=PeterMcCormack

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David Allen's avatar

I saw most of this. He's a smart guy but not solely responsible for Reform's meteoric rise. That accolade goes to Farage. In any case he's not alone. Paul Oakden, a former UKIP chairman and also a very smart guy has been behind the scenes in the Brexit Party and Reform UK for years, but there's little doubt that the magnetism is all Nigel.

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Martyn Scott's avatar

Dan I also voted and joined Reform last June in run up to General Election… but a lot of water has gone under the bridge since 4 July. I too agree with you about Reform… even Rupert Lowe, out of frustration of being locked out of the hierarchy of Reform with the imposition of Zia Yusuf, had to vent his feeling to Andrew Pierce in DM. Yes he’s correct Reform is an activist campaigning party with still no serious chance, even if elected the next government, will fail.

Rupert did an excellent interview with Spectator TV last week… he showed why he’s got his head screwed on… visionary, on top of Parliamentary procedures, civil service and Private Secretaries, the failure built into our government by Blair, Brown, Cameron, May etc. He’s thoughtful, investigative, inquiring, willing to learn and work with others, forming a plan for government to hit the road running… just like Pres Donald Trumps team were in January 2025.

Watch his interview… it demonstrates someone who’s on top of the UK’s strengths and weaknesses.

https://youtu.be/553E98HR-MU?si=UOI-GYfcTa2RJfud

Reform UK led by Nigel Farage has drifted dramatically since 2024GE campaign and moved to fight the battle out in the centre, centre-left Social Democrat area, whilst ditching the UK’s cultural roots. Have you noticed how he no longer refers to our Judaea Christian Culture… instead now embracing cultures which are alien to us! All this direction flies in the opposite direction of the warnings outlined by Prof Matt Goodwin (Reform UK aparache) last week by the rapid extinction of our culture by 2068… dropping to a minority of 33% at turn of 21st Century. When interviewed about this Richard Tice’s response when interviewed by Stephen Eddington… “oh I’ll be dead” and shrugged his shoulders.

Melanie Phillips at JNS in May 2025 summed up what’s going on in the West amongst our liberal Elite. The West is under a ‘Cultural Attack’ and won’t survive unless we all wake up to what’s going on around us. Listen to her speech and listen everyday to our Political Class, including Reform… the march to extinction continues. The latest Government Prevent Duty Training document confirms everything… our Elite continue on the road to oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eodG-yJ3Qyc&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

Farage and Reform are not the answer the UK is looking for… theirs a combination of good individuals who need to bind together and really drive the vision and plan ahead. The likes of Rupert Lowe, Ben Habib, Steven Wolfe, Douglas Murray, Douglas Carswell, Prof David Starkey, Robert Jenrick, Liz Truss, Suella Braverman, some on the new Tory intake like Katie Lamb plus others… they would front a a team who’ve got a real grip on what’s going on and how to tackle it head-on from Day 1!

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Roy Gardiner's avatar

Excellent! All the people whose names you listed are in my good books.

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Victoria Thomas's avatar

Forgive me but I have visions of a Blair-Brown pact here. Reform gets elected, and after a few months Nigel hands the reins to Yusaf. We then have a Muslim PM. Anyone feel the same ?

I feel Yusaf is in this for far more than the good of Reform. I am now a floating voter again, not knowing who to vote for.

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Eleanor's avatar

My theory has always been that he has been promised something right from the start - maybe even the leadership when Nigel inevitably retires/steps down. The question is what exactly did Farage get in exchange then - its got to be more than that 200k? And the likes of Mohammad Yusuf are not going to work for free unless they have been offered something.

This time Yusuf probably got something signed by Farage to make that deal concrete.

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Jane Noble Knight's avatar

I agree. He does still own half the company. Farage had spoken of handing on to a younger person. I thought two years ago that was Matt Goodwin. Then Yusuf appeared from nowhere. I suspect that’s who Farage meant now.

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Ian Munro's avatar

Farage does well when he sticks to his skill set - a good "front man", like a warm up act at a comedy show! Likely to be a good (not great) leader? No. His political history is littered with close "colleagues " falling out with him, but it is always their fault and Nig is the victim! Sound familiar?

A good leader surrounds themselves with people who will challenge and advise, not "yes men".

A man who cannot control, manage and effectively lead a team of 5 is neither a manager or leader. Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe undoubtably prove that and whilst like Dan, we have to have Reform or something similar to change our totally corrupt politics - Farage as PM would be as disastrous as Boris!

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Patrick Young's avatar

Disagree. Farage is a conviction politician. Boris was an opportunistic, shape shifter. Life support machine for his penis. Clown. Bufoon. Total embarrassment. Having a PhD in self-parody is not enough to run a country...

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Ian Munro's avatar

Agree with you Patrick regarding Boris. And you are right, Farage is a conviction politician. In it for himself and his ego, so the wrong man to lead. Look up Narcissists and their traits!

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Bettina's avatar

Spot on my friend!

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Carla Knight's avatar

It’s a shame Farage couldn’t have made amends with Rupert Lowe instead of trying to throw him under the bus. Yusef is a mistake a huge mistake, however i won’t vote Labour or Conservative and I don’t think another party could make the same headway reform have made this past 18 months in time for the next election. in any case I am not sure any party can fix the damage labour have inflicted on this country or the mess conservatives made prior to labour coming into power again.

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Joyce Martin's avatar

Like Carla i am more concerned about the damage to the UK, also not sure if the UK can recover from the emigration carnage past, present and future. It is very important that the truth be told, palatable or not, that why i trust Dan.

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