Well he’s got 4 years to build a party … if Nigel Farage keeps making mistakes and annoying the public Ben might be in with more of a chance than you think. Especially if Tommy Robinson and Rupert Lowe do end up joining his party.
I've no problem at all with it if it is leveraged sensibly to keep Farage honest. What I don't want to see is both parties cutting each other's throats and Labour or Lib Dems sauntering in again on the back of it.
The problem is that Reform has already backtracked on a number of key issues, such as launching a gang rape enquiry etc, and they aren't even in power yet! How much back pedalling will they do in order to get into power.
Farage has already come out and said, without the Muslim vote, they cannot win, therefore it stands to reason why Reform will push an agenda that will make Muslims happy. (See the call to the end of child benefit for 2 children by Reform.)
A party that is NOT in power cannot realistically launch a gang rape enquiry! They can spend a lot of money trying but they do not have the authority to access the information. Reform have campaigned extensively on this. They have NOT backtracked and REFORM IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA. This is LOSING THE MUSLIM VOTE. The UK has a childbirth crisis and it is called population collapse which sounds ridiculous with the current situation caused by LABOUR AND TORIES flooding the UK with immigrants. Their policy of mass immigration is NOT an answer to this. It is a disaster. It is the fault of EVERY LABOUR AND TORY GOVERNMENT that have not invested in the British people and economy to financially incentivise people to have children.
There is already a motion tabled in the house of commons for MP's to sign which talks about banning the burqa. Not a single reform MP has signed it.
Rupert Lowe and the raising of hundreds of thousands of pounds towards the rape enquiry, have kept it in the forefront of public opinion and has caused two tier keir to back track and promise an enquiry. Reform promised one but didn't actually do anything about it.
Population collapse is happening all around the world, it isn't a UK sole problem. The crux of which is still being denied, but it is an environmental one as much as a financial one. This has been going on now for 20 years, it isn't a new problem. There are various endocrine disruptors which exist in greater numbers now then they did 30 years ago. Glyphosate and forever chemicals are two such examples. Sperm quality has been decreasing at a rate of 1% every year and has been over the last 50 years, although research suggests that this is increasing. So even those wanting to get pregnant, will find it more difficult to conceive.
We are seeing the destruction of the western world as we currently know it.
You are quite right and I imagine that it is because Rupert Lowe tabled the motion and cleverly did it first. Reform will Ban it, but without Lowe's involvement. Lowe did say that he wants to destroy Reform and I do think not signing it is petty and it makes Reform MPs look contrary and untrustworthy, which is the intention by Lowe.
If Lowe really cared about the UK, he wouldn't be aiming the gun at them in spite. Reform have such huge support, I think they are the only hope.
Habib does mention N Ireland in his launch YouTube today, which nice to hear. It also wise to connect with NI because they have started to suffer the illegals, and have been opposing such so NI public need support also on Immigration.
Well Marie, I should go after the one that said NI ‘not’ part of the U.K., cos it wasn’t me. lol!
FYI my comment is because Farage and ReformUK do not campaign or visit NI and as far as I know have no intention to, saying NI has its own political Parties.
Apologies if I misunderstood. I posted something once before and got a pillory of idiotic comments about Ireland, so if that caused me misread what you said, please accept my sincere apology and I will take the comment down.
This is a problem yes,the only thing I think which will make it irrelevant is labour may not have enough supporters left,come 2029, for vote splitting to be such a big problem.
But the Conservatives and Lib Dem’s have begun hoovering up some of the undecided. Look how suddenly many MPs are parroting Reform’s immigration warnings.
So it’s vital we’ve just one strong people’s party to rally round.
I like Ben but I suspect not all those currently whispering in his ear are genuinely motivated.
REFORM IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA!!! This is LOSING the Muslim vote. Zia Yusuf is in favour of the BAN. It wasn't party policy, BUT IT IS NOW!!!
Your opinion is valid of course, but I would counter with, that is what they are saying now. I dont trust Farage any more, he is establishment and you cant trust establishment. My personal feeling is he will sell out for a knighthood.
Apologies if that offends anyone. Farage wants recognition. Who knows why?
They might be parroting it but doesn’t mean they will get votes at election time. So many absolutely fed up with the 3 Parties, that likely many a year before would consider voting for them again.
Hopefully, but a council election in Scotland returned LABOUR!! There are a lot of idiots around. SNP was 2nd!! Reform was 3rd, but it was a fantastic result because there was not a lot between 1st and 3rd. A large proportion in the UK are disillusioned and in dismay and REFORM offer hope.
I don’t think it will. There are many disillusioned Reform members and supporters who are only supporting Reform because there is no other choice. Many who were thrown out of Reform for speaking their minds have already said they are just waiting for Ben to do this. We have already signed up. Ben is honest and very well respected. I trust him. If he says he will do something - he will, unless Farage I’m afraid.
Teething troubles and in fighting in a new party are to be expected.
Yes I wish Nigel had offered Ben an alternative position when he appointed Zia Yusif.
I think Nigel is so battle hardened he has a thick coat of emotional armour which sometimes renders him unempathetic. As leader it’s something he needs to definitely work on.
But however tempting it is to switch to a newer party with no history of grievances or
I disagree. Reform is making great inroads. They are delivering in Councils even though Council employees are making things very difficult for them deliberately. The DOGE is uncovering a lot of corruption and unnecessary spending. I am very pleased with Reform's performance. I don't think Ben will get on with people that have different views. Ben stood for Reform but LOST his seat!!! Lowe is very right wing and had a public spat instead of behind closed doors. I agree with Farage over this because this is damaging to any party and Lowe is really a TORY. The Tories won't let him get anywhere if they let him join because the Tories are full of liberal left leaning MPs and Lowe is very right wing!!
So am I. I am highly impressed with REFORM's performance with DOGE and even though Council employees are making things very difficult, they are soldiering on. Darren Grimes is doing a GREAT JOB!! and has exposed what goes on. Brilliant!!!
At the moment, there really has been no alternative to Reform, so I completely understand. However, you really don't lose good people like Ben and Rupert when you are a good leader (not to mention the many others!). Nigel appears to be a great "front man", a bit like Boris, but will he surround himself with "Yes" men or those who have some different skills, knowledge and experience who will be listened to and become a great, fully integrated team? I somehow doubt the latter as Nigel does not seem able to keep the good! (Forgetting the bad and the ugly!). And he has dipped in and out all over the place at the drop of a hat!
I'm sorry to say that the only true thing Starmer has said is that "Farage is in it for himself"! You don't save the Titanic by re-arranging the deck chairs and occupants! Trust, integrity, past record and loyalty must be the main considerations when choosing who to support in my opinion!
Why is it people would rather think that Farage is to blame for the break up between Habib and Lowe? Ben Habid stood for Reform but DIDN'T WIN HIS SEAT!! Lowe is very right wing and said some unsavoury things on X. He had a spat in public instead of behind closed doors!! This is damaging to any party. Farage is NOT TO BLAME. Reform's success is because they are centre right and their policies appeal to everyone. It is not about left or right. It's about policies to correct the damage to the UK. Lowe has set up a lobbying group, not a political party. I don't think Advance will get anywhere just like UKIP. We MUST get rid of Labour and the liberal left Tories and REFORM have a massive support. Although I like Ben, I hope it fails because I don't want the vote split. It is too important because the UK is nosediving.
Don't disagree with you Christine. The problem that I and many others who have extensive business backgrounds leading and transforming organisations (public and private sectors) know, is that the leadership and team are key to success. If it was just Ben and Rupert, I may think differently, but he has "lost" mant previous close colleagues (I think well over 6!), all in similar circumstances! A true leader will have not only people who perform well in their own role, but who can objectively input, advise and will most certainly at times disagree, coming forward with other suggestions. Having a team of "Yes men" does not work as it will always end up with "the last man standing" view that wins the day. If that's the boss, you are in trouble. Removing people who disagree does not bode well and my colours are certainly fixed to Ben
I don't think Ben is respectful of views that are different from his. It is not just Farage's fault. Ben is pretty dogmatic. I see things differently after watching Nigel on Farage on GB News. I have watched him a lot and he listens to what people say and is capable of changing his mind. I don't think Ben or Rupert are as accommodating.
vote on principle and morals, tactical voting fails in the long run and we just end up with the same old shite. Farage is establishment and controlled opposition, he will not deliver and we will end up with Yusuf, which would be horrific
I joined reform last June before the GE simply because I believed they were our only hope to sort this rotten mess out. I was deeply inspired by their NEC rally so paid £25 to help them with their campaign. Since Farage has watered down his promises and treated Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib absolutely appallingly I’ve changed my mind. Not only that, but saying they’d stop the 2 child cap on child benefit is very stupid, we all know why they’re doing it!
The cheeky b****r/s automatically took another £25 out of my bank last week without asking if I wanted to continue my membership!
I complained to my bank and I see they’ve refunded the £25 now!
Be careful folks who feel you don’t want to support Reform financially by remaining a member. They will just take the £25!
I will now join Ben Habib and hope he goes from strength to strength recruiting some high profile people to get his face all over the MSM.
£10 is a fairer amount I’m sure more people won’t mind paying too .
Well said, Tracy. I'm guessing there will be thousands who will start to see things as you do in the coming months. Ben is a man of principle who wants to establish a party that can serve the people in the future, whether he leads it (or is even still alive) or not. I'm always amazed at the people who declare that he is an egotist, selfish, jealous of Farage or bitter and twisted! There are a lot of people who are clearly poor judges of character! I'm praying for Ben and for the country. We need some miracles - desperately.
Have you watched Ben and Nigel on GB News? I've watched both of them a lot. Ben doesn't stop talking and is dogmatic. He doesn't respect views that differ to his. Nigel listens to people and takes their comments on board.
Why blame FARAGE for Habib and Lowe? Habib stood for REFORM but LOST his seat! Lowe is very right wing and created the problem by spouting right wing rhetoric on X, and then having a public spat!! This is damaging for any party as a far right party will not get elected. Nigel is doing everything right and fighting off the far right label painted by left wing supporters. Reform is CENTRE RIGHT and is the ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA!!
I didn’t get a refund, I didn’t want to renew my membership! They shouldn’t have just taken it! An email reminder would have been the correct way to ask if I wanted to pay the £25.
I’m right wing and I thought Refirm were when they had Ann Widecombe on the stage at the NEC last June. How they have watered down their pledges and promises over the last 12 months!
I don’t support their manifesto so why would I pay them £25 ?
I didn’t give permission for them to take another £25 out of my bank account hence my bank got it back straight away! I follow politics very carefully and I’m not a brainwashed sheep following the current rhetoric!
We have got 4 years until another general election in which time a more patriotic right wing party could emerge hopefully!
I do not trust Reform anymore and to be honest, I prefer the way Robert Jenerick is campaigning ! I much prefer the honesty of Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib so who knows, between them a real right wing patriotic political party could emerge!
You carry on banging your Reform drum, like I was this time last year if it makes you happy! But after seeing how they label and dismiss decent people many of their own supporters, they won’t stay the favourite for another 4 years!
You still got a refund so they are running a legitimate fair organisation. Jenrick was a REMAINER in the Tories and fully signed up to the liberal left!!! He was Minister for IMMIGRATION in the last Tory Government and did a CRAP job. He has also been Minister, like Badenoch, for housing Communities and local government, ploughing up the countryside and most social housing is taken by immigrants!! Just because he has cottoned onto the public mood, his rhetoric has changed and all of a sudden he is desperately spouting right wing conservative talk, copying Reform. I would NOT trust the Tories every again. They are dishonest and the party is infested with liberal left leaning MPs. Habib and Lowe really dismissed themselves due to their conduct!!
We need a viable alternative to the alternative which is reform. Too much infighting and very judgmental attitude from reform I’m afraid, it’s not the party for me. I want free speech even if that entails ruffling the feathers of the leader and Nigel cannot take criticism, he never could in UKIP. He’s very good at dismissing anyone who disagrees with him.
I disagree. People blame Farage over Habib and Lowe. The fact is Habid stood for Reform and LOST his seat!! Lowe is VERY RIGHT WING and said unsavoury things on X and had a public row instead of behind closed doors. This is damaging to any party. Farage is centre right and he is playing the right game and has a massive support. If people are stupid enough to split the vote, WE WILL END UP WITH LABOUR!!
I’m in with Ben. I’ve been waiting for this for a while now since Nigel and Reform’s missteps. I’m unsubscribing from Reform now so I can join. I was a member of Reform from the very start. They’re no longer what I signed up for. I hope Ben has some other great people joining him.
Reform is everything I signed up for. The DOGE is exposing corruption and misappropriation of funds by Councils. Darren Grimes is doing a fantastic job!! Reform ARE DELIVERING!!
Reform's missteps? Ben LOST his seat when he stood for Reform. Lowe created the problem by having a public spat and spouting far right rhetoric on X. Nigel is doing everything RIGHT. Reform are not far right, they are centre right and have battled so much criticism and mudslinging by people deliberately discrediting them. Yet, they are a success story.
We will never get good leadership if the vote is devided, and I for one do not want another labour or conservative leadership again. What are the real reasons he is doing this? It will not work out well for either side and we will not get what is required in the next election.
I did not realize that MEN, when they cannot get their own way could be so spitful.
Obviously, Nigel did not do what Ben wanted , so he is taking his revenge.
I hope he does not spoil the chance of Reform getting in to rule.
Nigel falls out with anybody who dares to question him - does he think he can run the country alone alongside his Muslim boyfriend? Reform have been making almost weekly cock-ups since Dick Tice's comments.
Yawn - the usual ignorant reply from a Farage fangirl. Do you want a Muslim PM by the backdoor and Tory lite at best - that is all you will get from Conform.
I am not a Farage fangirl as you put it. I think you lose ALL credibility by saying a Muslim PM by the back door. Zia Yusuf is not the chairman of Reform and he IS NOT EVEN AN MP!! To become PM, you've got to be an MP!!!! He is a successful businessman leading DOGE. Uncovering corruption in Councils.
In fact, they are doing a fantastic job. REFORM ARE DELIVERING!!! Who else is delivering?
Apart from some great starts by Reform UK Councillors, Reform under Farage and his muslim boss Zia Yusuf are taking us down a dark road. Indeed, Farage is now attempting to use fear tactics to stop an exodus of disappointed Reformers.
Although we must destroy the traitorous Labour, Conservative, Liberal, Green, SNP, Plaid, parties, Advance UK must move forward quickly and the hesitation by Rupert Lowe could stymie the whole project.
I don’t buy the excuse that Rupert does not wish to involve himself in party politics just now. He wasn’t saying that a month ago, so what’s changed?
This withdrawal by Rupert is very disappointing, and it will be interesting to see who else joins Advance UK over the next few days.
In order to have the required impetus,
Advance UK must have more big names immediately and if that means merging with other right wing groups, then so be it. But, without a huge start, preferably with Rupert and Andrew Bridgen, it may struggle to get off the ground, despite Elon Musk’s backing. As Ben won’t succeed on his own.
Farage is playing the right game to appeal to a wide cross section. Lowe is very right wing and was a spoke in it when he exposed his views on X. A public spat followed instead of behind closed doors. This is NOT Farage's fault. Lowe has started a lobbying group. Ben Habib stood for Reform but LOST HIS SEAT!!He didn't get elected as an MP. Reform has a massive support and is the ONLY credible party to STOP LABOUR. Any split in the vote, Labour will win and the UK as we know it, will be gone!
Sorry Christine, but I disagree. It’s NOT right wing to stand up and call out extreme Communist tyrannical government. It’s what the public expect. It’s called truth, justice and the rule of law. Those of us who have campaigned against immigration for decades have been called every name under the sun. But, do you know what… we DONT care what they call us!
In this Common Law realm we are ALL obliged to tell the truth, regardless of the opinions of others. And that’s exactly what Rupert and Ben are doing. I and many others have known the truth about Farage for decades. Why keep on trusting him when you no longer have to? A leopard will never change its spots.
Rupert Lowe has NOT formed a new party, he’s started a movement for every patriotic Briton to join. The idea is very similar to the A.S.I.B. which our organisation started three years ago. And I support it 100%…
"Very right wing" - as in he wants to deport foreign criminals?Lol Nigel's Muslim boyfriend called the police because of hurty words - and this is who you want to elect? I sugggest you give your little fangirl head a wobble!
You can deport foreign criminals without being very right wing. It is in Reform's policies to do so. Lowe is 'very right wing' due to the unsavoury rhetoric on X. I think you lose credibility by making slagging stupid remarks re Nigel's muslim boyfriend - this is beyond ridiculous. If anything I would say Farage is a bit of a womaniser. You must be referring to STARMER, because there is a lot to emerge there with HIS Muslim boyfriends or should I say rent boys.
You have zero credibility to start with by firstly saying Lowe is "too right wing" and then being so blinkered that you can't see that Farage is manouvering Mohammad to take over. Bull is nowhere to be seen - it is Mohammad that is always at Farage's side at press conferences and it won't be long before he is an MP as he said himself on X - he has been put in line for the next safe seat.
Anyway all this probably goes over your deluded little head as you are a complete fangirl - anyone can see that.
As for claim that Mohammad is a successful business man - he has loads of bad reviews from former employees for his overbearing style of management - rather like how he behaved as Reform chairman. The idea that he is any kind of leader is ridiculous. His latest "idea" is some kind of corporate "Britannia Card" to sell off British Visas to the highest bidder in exchange for paying no tax - in other words the country gets more foreigners and less tax from them!
Farage is already history he just doesn't realise it yet - Restore Britain has already garnered thousands of members in one single day including the likes of David Starkey on the board.
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That’s what they said about Reform 12 months ago! A lot has changed in 1 year, an awful lot can change over the course of 4 years. As I said, get some high profile figures involved, plaster Ben Habib all over the MSM and the party will gain momentum, just as Reform have.
I’ve lost faith in Farage. The fact that he calls us Patriots “ That lot ? “
The very backbone of this Country!
Stephen Yaxley is gaining millions of supporters globally and for all of the right reasons. Forage to keep on decrying him is a home goal.
The Overton window is shifting at a groundbreaking rate. Don’t doubt the power of the people who have had enough of emptying promises that were made just to get votes last year.
I used to respect Ben but splitting the right even further will only allow Labour to get in again. It’s also reminding me of when Gina Miller launched the True and Fair party….
Reform is not on the right. It is like the old Labour Party of John Smith and Peter Shore: socially conservative, patriotic, anti-EU and pro big spending government.
As said in article he wanting to stay Independent MP at present as has active actions at present which not wanting to put aside, eg the rape gang enquiry which already happening under his oversight and his and public money; his Lucy Connelly campaign to free her; illegal Immigration. ….. I have no doubt that he will join later.
I think this is crazy. It takes years to break into the status quo of politics and the Country is in a dire straights. Whatever the differences with Reform and Farage (and we can all see them) the greater good is to get rid of Labour and there is no chance of doing that by splitting the vote. It will already be split between Reform and die hard Conservatives but with another Party in the mix it will be a home run for the Communist/ Labour Party. It doesn’t bear thinking about.
Do we really want to split the vote and let Labour in again?
Well he’s got 4 years to build a party … if Nigel Farage keeps making mistakes and annoying the public Ben might be in with more of a chance than you think. Especially if Tommy Robinson and Rupert Lowe do end up joining his party.
I've no problem at all with it if it is leveraged sensibly to keep Farage honest. What I don't want to see is both parties cutting each other's throats and Labour or Lib Dems sauntering in again on the back of it.
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it will still split the vote - it's a hugely stupid idea
The problem is that Reform has already backtracked on a number of key issues, such as launching a gang rape enquiry etc, and they aren't even in power yet! How much back pedalling will they do in order to get into power.
Farage has already come out and said, without the Muslim vote, they cannot win, therefore it stands to reason why Reform will push an agenda that will make Muslims happy. (See the call to the end of child benefit for 2 children by Reform.)
A party that is NOT in power cannot realistically launch a gang rape enquiry! They can spend a lot of money trying but they do not have the authority to access the information. Reform have campaigned extensively on this. They have NOT backtracked and REFORM IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA. This is LOSING THE MUSLIM VOTE. The UK has a childbirth crisis and it is called population collapse which sounds ridiculous with the current situation caused by LABOUR AND TORIES flooding the UK with immigrants. Their policy of mass immigration is NOT an answer to this. It is a disaster. It is the fault of EVERY LABOUR AND TORY GOVERNMENT that have not invested in the British people and economy to financially incentivise people to have children.
There is already a motion tabled in the house of commons for MP's to sign which talks about banning the burqa. Not a single reform MP has signed it.
Rupert Lowe and the raising of hundreds of thousands of pounds towards the rape enquiry, have kept it in the forefront of public opinion and has caused two tier keir to back track and promise an enquiry. Reform promised one but didn't actually do anything about it.
Population collapse is happening all around the world, it isn't a UK sole problem. The crux of which is still being denied, but it is an environmental one as much as a financial one. This has been going on now for 20 years, it isn't a new problem. There are various endocrine disruptors which exist in greater numbers now then they did 30 years ago. Glyphosate and forever chemicals are two such examples. Sperm quality has been decreasing at a rate of 1% every year and has been over the last 50 years, although research suggests that this is increasing. So even those wanting to get pregnant, will find it more difficult to conceive.
We are seeing the destruction of the western world as we currently know it.
You are quite right and I imagine that it is because Rupert Lowe tabled the motion and cleverly did it first. Reform will Ban it, but without Lowe's involvement. Lowe did say that he wants to destroy Reform and I do think not signing it is petty and it makes Reform MPs look contrary and untrustworthy, which is the intention by Lowe.
If Lowe really cared about the UK, he wouldn't be aiming the gun at them in spite. Reform have such huge support, I think they are the only hope.
I think you are deluded!
"split the vote" comments break my heart. I can't believe people are still so gullible. Reform are not the solution.
AdvanceUK is the only chance this country has.
Solutions not soundbites
Lead from the front not stab in the back
Us lot not 'that lot'
United Kingdom 🇬🇧
Not woke - WISE
Wales
Ireland
Scotland
England 🇬🇧 💯
(Yes it's Northern Ireland that's part of the UK. But this is what God gave me in prayer.
Plus the Irish can vote in UK elections and we need to unite in the fight for freedom and democracy.❤️)
Habib does mention N Ireland in his launch YouTube today, which nice to hear. It also wise to connect with NI because they have started to suffer the illegals, and have been opposing such so NI public need support also on Immigration.
Well Marie, I should go after the one that said NI ‘not’ part of the U.K., cos it wasn’t me. lol!
FYI my comment is because Farage and ReformUK do not campaign or visit NI and as far as I know have no intention to, saying NI has its own political Parties.
Apologies if I misunderstood. I posted something once before and got a pillory of idiotic comments about Ireland, so if that caused me misread what you said, please accept my sincere apology and I will take the comment down.
Do you want another Labour government?
This was my first thought - but I’ve always felt like Nigel is in this for himself and to be in power, more than what UK needs.
Farage was retired from Politics, but came back because of the state of the UK. FGS give them a chance.
This is a problem yes,the only thing I think which will make it irrelevant is labour may not have enough supporters left,come 2029, for vote splitting to be such a big problem.
But the Conservatives and Lib Dem’s have begun hoovering up some of the undecided. Look how suddenly many MPs are parroting Reform’s immigration warnings.
So it’s vital we’ve just one strong people’s party to rally round.
I like Ben but I suspect not all those currently whispering in his ear are genuinely motivated.
I wish Lib Dem would just disappear. It stands for nothing but bad decisions.
I will never forgive the Conservatives for what they have done. They have betrayed the people, they have all only serviced their own personal needs.
I do not know what Reform thinks its playing at. It does not need the Muslim vote!
Anyway, I am expecting an Islamic type party to form and every Muslim will vote for that new Islamic Party, watch this space.
Farage will have shot himself in the foot as they say. The fact that Farage turned on Habib and Lowe as he did, cant now be trusted.
A PM has to be a team player, and have a very strong team.
As for Labour they lied to get their votes. lied on CV's. Cant ever be trusted.
Good luck to Mr Habib I will join and volunteer. Any thing can happen!
REFORM IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA!!! This is LOSING the Muslim vote. Zia Yusuf is in favour of the BAN. It wasn't party policy, BUT IT IS NOW!!!
Your opinion is valid of course, but I would counter with, that is what they are saying now. I dont trust Farage any more, he is establishment and you cant trust establishment. My personal feeling is he will sell out for a knighthood.
Apologies if that offends anyone. Farage wants recognition. Who knows why?
Can you explain why you think Farage is 'establishment'?
This is the first time he has ever been an MP in the HOC. He has always campaigned AGAINST the establishment!!!
Well summarised, Sue!
They might be parroting it but doesn’t mean they will get votes at election time. So many absolutely fed up with the 3 Parties, that likely many a year before would consider voting for them again.
Hopefully, but a council election in Scotland returned LABOUR!! There are a lot of idiots around. SNP was 2nd!! Reform was 3rd, but it was a fantastic result because there was not a lot between 1st and 3rd. A large proportion in the UK are disillusioned and in dismay and REFORM offer hope.
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I don’t think it will. There are many disillusioned Reform members and supporters who are only supporting Reform because there is no other choice. Many who were thrown out of Reform for speaking their minds have already said they are just waiting for Ben to do this. We have already signed up. Ben is honest and very well respected. I trust him. If he says he will do something - he will, unless Farage I’m afraid.
Teething troubles and in fighting in a new party are to be expected.
Yes I wish Nigel had offered Ben an alternative position when he appointed Zia Yusif.
I think Nigel is so battle hardened he has a thick coat of emotional armour which sometimes renders him unempathetic. As leader it’s something he needs to definitely work on.
But however tempting it is to switch to a newer party with no history of grievances or
I disagree. Reform is making great inroads. They are delivering in Councils even though Council employees are making things very difficult for them deliberately. The DOGE is uncovering a lot of corruption and unnecessary spending. I am very pleased with Reform's performance. I don't think Ben will get on with people that have different views. Ben stood for Reform but LOST his seat!!! Lowe is very right wing and had a public spat instead of behind closed doors. I agree with Farage over this because this is damaging to any party and Lowe is really a TORY. The Tories won't let him get anywhere if they let him join because the Tories are full of liberal left leaning MPs and Lowe is very right wing!!
Already signed up!
Reform are taking over councils at a very encouraging rate.
Ben’s a nice guy but our only real chance of political progress is with the party that’s leading in every poll and has nationwide recognition.
I’m sticking with Reform.
So am I. I am highly impressed with REFORM's performance with DOGE and even though Council employees are making things very difficult, they are soldiering on. Darren Grimes is doing a GREAT JOB!! and has exposed what goes on. Brilliant!!!
At the moment, there really has been no alternative to Reform, so I completely understand. However, you really don't lose good people like Ben and Rupert when you are a good leader (not to mention the many others!). Nigel appears to be a great "front man", a bit like Boris, but will he surround himself with "Yes" men or those who have some different skills, knowledge and experience who will be listened to and become a great, fully integrated team? I somehow doubt the latter as Nigel does not seem able to keep the good! (Forgetting the bad and the ugly!). And he has dipped in and out all over the place at the drop of a hat!
I'm sorry to say that the only true thing Starmer has said is that "Farage is in it for himself"! You don't save the Titanic by re-arranging the deck chairs and occupants! Trust, integrity, past record and loyalty must be the main considerations when choosing who to support in my opinion!
Why is it people would rather think that Farage is to blame for the break up between Habib and Lowe? Ben Habid stood for Reform but DIDN'T WIN HIS SEAT!! Lowe is very right wing and said some unsavoury things on X. He had a spat in public instead of behind closed doors!! This is damaging to any party. Farage is NOT TO BLAME. Reform's success is because they are centre right and their policies appeal to everyone. It is not about left or right. It's about policies to correct the damage to the UK. Lowe has set up a lobbying group, not a political party. I don't think Advance will get anywhere just like UKIP. We MUST get rid of Labour and the liberal left Tories and REFORM have a massive support. Although I like Ben, I hope it fails because I don't want the vote split. It is too important because the UK is nosediving.
Very well put Christine. 👍
Don't disagree with you Christine. The problem that I and many others who have extensive business backgrounds leading and transforming organisations (public and private sectors) know, is that the leadership and team are key to success. If it was just Ben and Rupert, I may think differently, but he has "lost" mant previous close colleagues (I think well over 6!), all in similar circumstances! A true leader will have not only people who perform well in their own role, but who can objectively input, advise and will most certainly at times disagree, coming forward with other suggestions. Having a team of "Yes men" does not work as it will always end up with "the last man standing" view that wins the day. If that's the boss, you are in trouble. Removing people who disagree does not bode well and my colours are certainly fixed to Ben
I don't think Ben is respectful of views that are different from his. It is not just Farage's fault. Ben is pretty dogmatic. I see things differently after watching Nigel on Farage on GB News. I have watched him a lot and he listens to what people say and is capable of changing his mind. I don't think Ben or Rupert are as accommodating.
Me too.
vote on principle and morals, tactical voting fails in the long run and we just end up with the same old shite. Farage is establishment and controlled opposition, he will not deliver and we will end up with Yusuf, which would be horrific
Farage is NOT establishment. He has spent years campaigning AGAINST the establishment!!
Yusuf is not an MP!!! He is heading DOGE which is doing a fantastic job.
he will be in time and will be the ruination of Reform. He is an unsavoury nasty piece of work
I am not sure that Yusuf will ever stand as an MP. He is a businessman with bigger things to fry and I don't think he likes politics.
I joined reform last June before the GE simply because I believed they were our only hope to sort this rotten mess out. I was deeply inspired by their NEC rally so paid £25 to help them with their campaign. Since Farage has watered down his promises and treated Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib absolutely appallingly I’ve changed my mind. Not only that, but saying they’d stop the 2 child cap on child benefit is very stupid, we all know why they’re doing it!
The cheeky b****r/s automatically took another £25 out of my bank last week without asking if I wanted to continue my membership!
I complained to my bank and I see they’ve refunded the £25 now!
Be careful folks who feel you don’t want to support Reform financially by remaining a member. They will just take the £25!
I will now join Ben Habib and hope he goes from strength to strength recruiting some high profile people to get his face all over the MSM.
£10 is a fairer amount I’m sure more people won’t mind paying too .
oh great a labour win
Well said, Tracy. I'm guessing there will be thousands who will start to see things as you do in the coming months. Ben is a man of principle who wants to establish a party that can serve the people in the future, whether he leads it (or is even still alive) or not. I'm always amazed at the people who declare that he is an egotist, selfish, jealous of Farage or bitter and twisted! There are a lot of people who are clearly poor judges of character! I'm praying for Ben and for the country. We need some miracles - desperately.
Have you watched Ben and Nigel on GB News? I've watched both of them a lot. Ben doesn't stop talking and is dogmatic. He doesn't respect views that differ to his. Nigel listens to people and takes their comments on board.
You got a refund!!
Why blame FARAGE for Habib and Lowe? Habib stood for REFORM but LOST his seat! Lowe is very right wing and created the problem by spouting right wing rhetoric on X, and then having a public spat!! This is damaging for any party as a far right party will not get elected. Nigel is doing everything right and fighting off the far right label painted by left wing supporters. Reform is CENTRE RIGHT and is the ONLY PARTY THAT WILL BAN THE BURQA!!
I didn’t get a refund, I didn’t want to renew my membership! They shouldn’t have just taken it! An email reminder would have been the correct way to ask if I wanted to pay the £25.
I’m right wing and I thought Refirm were when they had Ann Widecombe on the stage at the NEC last June. How they have watered down their pledges and promises over the last 12 months!
I don’t support their manifesto so why would I pay them £25 ?
I didn’t get a refund! I didn’t want to renew my membership! They shouldn’t have just taken the £25.
I joined last year to help them and my husband and myself donated a further £50 to help with their advertising campaign!
I think they’re all a bit richer than I am now with billionaire backers so they don’t need my £25
I didn’t give permission for them to take another £25 out of my bank account hence my bank got it back straight away! I follow politics very carefully and I’m not a brainwashed sheep following the current rhetoric!
We have got 4 years until another general election in which time a more patriotic right wing party could emerge hopefully!
I do not trust Reform anymore and to be honest, I prefer the way Robert Jenerick is campaigning ! I much prefer the honesty of Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib so who knows, between them a real right wing patriotic political party could emerge!
You carry on banging your Reform drum, like I was this time last year if it makes you happy! But after seeing how they label and dismiss decent people many of their own supporters, they won’t stay the favourite for another 4 years!
You still got a refund so they are running a legitimate fair organisation. Jenrick was a REMAINER in the Tories and fully signed up to the liberal left!!! He was Minister for IMMIGRATION in the last Tory Government and did a CRAP job. He has also been Minister, like Badenoch, for housing Communities and local government, ploughing up the countryside and most social housing is taken by immigrants!! Just because he has cottoned onto the public mood, his rhetoric has changed and all of a sudden he is desperately spouting right wing conservative talk, copying Reform. I would NOT trust the Tories every again. They are dishonest and the party is infested with liberal left leaning MPs. Habib and Lowe really dismissed themselves due to their conduct!!
We need a viable alternative to the alternative which is reform. Too much infighting and very judgmental attitude from reform I’m afraid, it’s not the party for me. I want free speech even if that entails ruffling the feathers of the leader and Nigel cannot take criticism, he never could in UKIP. He’s very good at dismissing anyone who disagrees with him.
you'll lose the election and probably most likely to labour.
I disagree. People blame Farage over Habib and Lowe. The fact is Habid stood for Reform and LOST his seat!! Lowe is VERY RIGHT WING and said unsavoury things on X and had a public row instead of behind closed doors. This is damaging to any party. Farage is centre right and he is playing the right game and has a massive support. If people are stupid enough to split the vote, WE WILL END UP WITH LABOUR!!
I’m in with Ben. I’ve been waiting for this for a while now since Nigel and Reform’s missteps. I’m unsubscribing from Reform now so I can join. I was a member of Reform from the very start. They’re no longer what I signed up for. I hope Ben has some other great people joining him.
Reform is everything I signed up for. The DOGE is exposing corruption and misappropriation of funds by Councils. Darren Grimes is doing a fantastic job!! Reform ARE DELIVERING!!
Reform's missteps? Ben LOST his seat when he stood for Reform. Lowe created the problem by having a public spat and spouting far right rhetoric on X. Nigel is doing everything RIGHT. Reform are not far right, they are centre right and have battled so much criticism and mudslinging by people deliberately discrediting them. Yet, they are a success story.
Great. I’m happy for you. We hold different opinions. It’s the way it should be. Vive la difference!
We will never get good leadership if the vote is devided, and I for one do not want another labour or conservative leadership again. What are the real reasons he is doing this? It will not work out well for either side and we will not get what is required in the next election.
I did not realize that MEN, when they cannot get their own way could be so spitful.
Obviously, Nigel did not do what Ben wanted , so he is taking his revenge.
I hope he does not spoil the chance of Reform getting in to rule.
Nigel falls out with anybody who dares to question him - does he think he can run the country alone alongside his Muslim boyfriend? Reform have been making almost weekly cock-ups since Dick Tice's comments.
Do you want another labour government?
Yawn - the usual ignorant reply from a Farage fangirl. Do you want a Muslim PM by the backdoor and Tory lite at best - that is all you will get from Conform.
I am not a Farage fangirl as you put it. I think you lose ALL credibility by saying a Muslim PM by the back door. Zia Yusuf is not the chairman of Reform and he IS NOT EVEN AN MP!! To become PM, you've got to be an MP!!!! He is a successful businessman leading DOGE. Uncovering corruption in Councils.
In fact, they are doing a fantastic job. REFORM ARE DELIVERING!!! Who else is delivering?
Farage is already history.
Apart from some great starts by Reform UK Councillors, Reform under Farage and his muslim boss Zia Yusuf are taking us down a dark road. Indeed, Farage is now attempting to use fear tactics to stop an exodus of disappointed Reformers.
Although we must destroy the traitorous Labour, Conservative, Liberal, Green, SNP, Plaid, parties, Advance UK must move forward quickly and the hesitation by Rupert Lowe could stymie the whole project.
I don’t buy the excuse that Rupert does not wish to involve himself in party politics just now. He wasn’t saying that a month ago, so what’s changed?
This withdrawal by Rupert is very disappointing, and it will be interesting to see who else joins Advance UK over the next few days.
In order to have the required impetus,
Advance UK must have more big names immediately and if that means merging with other right wing groups, then so be it. But, without a huge start, preferably with Rupert and Andrew Bridgen, it may struggle to get off the ground, despite Elon Musk’s backing. As Ben won’t succeed on his own.
Farage is playing the right game to appeal to a wide cross section. Lowe is very right wing and was a spoke in it when he exposed his views on X. A public spat followed instead of behind closed doors. This is NOT Farage's fault. Lowe has started a lobbying group. Ben Habib stood for Reform but LOST HIS SEAT!!He didn't get elected as an MP. Reform has a massive support and is the ONLY credible party to STOP LABOUR. Any split in the vote, Labour will win and the UK as we know it, will be gone!
Sorry Christine, but I disagree. It’s NOT right wing to stand up and call out extreme Communist tyrannical government. It’s what the public expect. It’s called truth, justice and the rule of law. Those of us who have campaigned against immigration for decades have been called every name under the sun. But, do you know what… we DONT care what they call us!
In this Common Law realm we are ALL obliged to tell the truth, regardless of the opinions of others. And that’s exactly what Rupert and Ben are doing. I and many others have known the truth about Farage for decades. Why keep on trusting him when you no longer have to? A leopard will never change its spots.
Rupert Lowe has NOT formed a new party, he’s started a movement for every patriotic Briton to join. The idea is very similar to the A.S.I.B. which our organisation started three years ago. And I support it 100%…
https://thebritishvoice.substack.com/p/proclamation
"Very right wing" - as in he wants to deport foreign criminals?Lol Nigel's Muslim boyfriend called the police because of hurty words - and this is who you want to elect? I sugggest you give your little fangirl head a wobble!
You can deport foreign criminals without being very right wing. It is in Reform's policies to do so. Lowe is 'very right wing' due to the unsavoury rhetoric on X. I think you lose credibility by making slagging stupid remarks re Nigel's muslim boyfriend - this is beyond ridiculous. If anything I would say Farage is a bit of a womaniser. You must be referring to STARMER, because there is a lot to emerge there with HIS Muslim boyfriends or should I say rent boys.
You have zero credibility to start with by firstly saying Lowe is "too right wing" and then being so blinkered that you can't see that Farage is manouvering Mohammad to take over. Bull is nowhere to be seen - it is Mohammad that is always at Farage's side at press conferences and it won't be long before he is an MP as he said himself on X - he has been put in line for the next safe seat.
Anyway all this probably goes over your deluded little head as you are a complete fangirl - anyone can see that.
As for claim that Mohammad is a successful business man - he has loads of bad reviews from former employees for his overbearing style of management - rather like how he behaved as Reform chairman. The idea that he is any kind of leader is ridiculous. His latest "idea" is some kind of corporate "Britannia Card" to sell off British Visas to the highest bidder in exchange for paying no tax - in other words the country gets more foreigners and less tax from them!
Farage is already history he just doesn't realise it yet - Restore Britain has already garnered thousands of members in one single day including the likes of David Starkey on the board.
Absolutely spot on!
Well done Ben. Since Reform has involved ZY it has changed completely and to me is unelectable.
Reform is the only party that will BAN THE BURQA. Zia Yusuf is IN FAVOUR OF THE BAN!!
How do I cancel my membership of Reform?
I would prefer to join Ben Habib's party. Reform is going the wrong way.
With difficulty! You’d be better doing it from your bank end. Contact your bank and tell them to close finances to ReformUK. Have your bank details ready and any finance details you have of Reform. …. Remember your donation to Reform is not in legal terms a ‘membership’ as they not registered in Company House as a political Party so be prepared for bank to query if you say ‘member’.
Cancel your credit card payment. Then email Reform with you name address and membership number and ask them to stop your subscription. Reform doesn’t actually have members. It’s called a donation in the email confirmation you receive.
No, it is not.
I hope Rupert supports Ben ,this is what we have been waiting for !
I used to respect Ben Habib, but now I just think he’s pathetic.
That’s what they said about Reform 12 months ago! A lot has changed in 1 year, an awful lot can change over the course of 4 years. As I said, get some high profile figures involved, plaster Ben Habib all over the MSM and the party will gain momentum, just as Reform have.
I’ve lost faith in Farage. The fact that he calls us Patriots “ That lot ? “
The very backbone of this Country!
Stephen Yaxley is gaining millions of supporters globally and for all of the right reasons. Forage to keep on decrying him is a home goal.
The Overton window is shifting at a groundbreaking rate. Don’t doubt the power of the people who have had enough of emptying promises that were made just to get votes last year.
I used to respect Ben but splitting the right even further will only allow Labour to get in again. It’s also reminding me of when Gina Miller launched the True and Fair party….
Reform is not on the right. It is like the old Labour Party of John Smith and Peter Shore: socially conservative, patriotic, anti-EU and pro big spending government.
Centre right
I would support it if Rupert Lowe was in it.
As said in article he wanting to stay Independent MP at present as has active actions at present which not wanting to put aside, eg the rape gang enquiry which already happening under his oversight and his and public money; his Lucy Connelly campaign to free her; illegal Immigration. ….. I have no doubt that he will join later.
I think this is crazy. It takes years to break into the status quo of politics and the Country is in a dire straights. Whatever the differences with Reform and Farage (and we can all see them) the greater good is to get rid of Labour and there is no chance of doing that by splitting the vote. It will already be split between Reform and die hard Conservatives but with another Party in the mix it will be a home run for the Communist/ Labour Party. It doesn’t bear thinking about.
Here we go again , let's do all we can to keep Labour in by splitting the party ! I'm beginning to wonder if there's a conspiracy going on ?